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	<title>Comments on: How to use Twitter effectively: Travel PR companies</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.grumpytraveller.com/2009/08/19/how-to-use-twitter-effectively-travel-pr-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lisa. Thanks for your comments - and interesting to see what you have to say about press releases. I&#039;ve always had the suspicion that sending out lots of press releases is about being seen to do your job by a client rather than actually doing it. That&#039;s probably not entirely the case, but there&#039;s probably an element of truth in it.

I&#039;d be interested to know the differences in travel PR/ journalist interaction in the US - my experience is largely based on the UK and Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lisa. Thanks for your comments &#8211; and interesting to see what you have to say about press releases. I&#8217;ve always had the suspicion that sending out lots of press releases is about being seen to do your job by a client rather than actually doing it. That&#8217;s probably not entirely the case, but there&#8217;s probably an element of truth in it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested to know the differences in travel PR/ journalist interaction in the US &#8211; my experience is largely based on the UK and Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Gerber</title>
		<link>http://www.grumpytraveller.com/2009/08/19/how-to-use-twitter-effectively-travel-pr-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Gerber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David, thanks for the comment about the press releases. I hardly write press releases any more. it is helpful to have comments like yours from journalists to show our clients. They rarely work. 

I agree with everything you write. Twitter is simply another a channel, and all the same behavior rules apply. Whether you&#039;re at a cocktail party, on email or on the phone. You listen, engage, add interesting content when you have it.

Having said that, we all have a mix of followers. I tweet on business related items as well as my personal interests. All in moderation so never to bore one side or the other.

Thanks again, 
Lisa
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David, thanks for the comment about the press releases. I hardly write press releases any more. it is helpful to have comments like yours from journalists to show our clients. They rarely work. </p>
<p>I agree with everything you write. Twitter is simply another a channel, and all the same behavior rules apply. Whether you&#8217;re at a cocktail party, on email or on the phone. You listen, engage, add interesting content when you have it.</p>
<p>Having said that, we all have a mix of followers. I tweet on business related items as well as my personal interests. All in moderation so never to bore one side or the other.</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
Lisa<br />
@lisagerber</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Teller</title>
		<link>http://www.grumpytraveller.com/2009/08/19/how-to-use-twitter-effectively-travel-pr-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great post, David - thank you. For me, Twitter is best placed to serve as a way to connect with other journalists: sharing experiences and hearing how other people go about things is invaluable. Far too few opportunities for this. To be honest, it&#039;s not difficult to connect with PRs: if I need PR information, all I have to do is make contact and reams will be forthcoming...

Unlike many (it seems), I&#039;m not bothered about my press releases being personally addressed - feels a bit creepy, actually - and I&#039;d rather that PRs made it easier for me to hook into press releases (and/or client info) on destinations/subjects/entities that I know are within my speciality. Why not offer RSS feeds for each of your clients, so that I can subscribe to useful ones, and dodge irrelevant bombardment?

On that note I wish there was an easy way to filter my Twitter stream - is there? I tried Tweetdeck but didn&#039;t like the interface or lack of customizing options. Same as travmedia gathers all PR releases into one convenient package which I can scan quickly twice a day and pick out useful stuff at a glance, I want to do the same with PR tweets. Suggestion for tweeting PRs: how about adding a hashtag to client releases - say #client? That way, we can all talk together about stuff of mutual interest, but when you&#039;ve got a release to put out, add a hashtag so we can identify and filter it as such. Just an idea. Otherwise I have to filter everything emanating from your Twitter ID...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great post, David &#8211; thank you. For me, Twitter is best placed to serve as a way to connect with other journalists: sharing experiences and hearing how other people go about things is invaluable. Far too few opportunities for this. To be honest, it&#8217;s not difficult to connect with PRs: if I need PR information, all I have to do is make contact and reams will be forthcoming&#8230;</p>
<p>Unlike many (it seems), I&#8217;m not bothered about my press releases being personally addressed &#8211; feels a bit creepy, actually &#8211; and I&#8217;d rather that PRs made it easier for me to hook into press releases (and/or client info) on destinations/subjects/entities that I know are within my speciality. Why not offer RSS feeds for each of your clients, so that I can subscribe to useful ones, and dodge irrelevant bombardment?</p>
<p>On that note I wish there was an easy way to filter my Twitter stream &#8211; is there? I tried Tweetdeck but didn&#8217;t like the interface or lack of customizing options. Same as travmedia gathers all PR releases into one convenient package which I can scan quickly twice a day and pick out useful stuff at a glance, I want to do the same with PR tweets. Suggestion for tweeting PRs: how about adding a hashtag to client releases &#8211; say #client? That way, we can all talk together about stuff of mutual interest, but when you&#8217;ve got a release to put out, add a hashtag so we can identify and filter it as such. Just an idea. Otherwise I have to filter everything emanating from your Twitter ID&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cierra</title>
		<link>http://www.grumpytraveller.com/2009/08/19/how-to-use-twitter-effectively-travel-pr-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>Cierra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting post with useful information! I&#039;m sure it gets extremely frustrating having this wonderful tool to engage with people, yet so many companies just use it as another direct sales/push marketing ploy. Thanks for the tips!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting post with useful information! I&#8217;m sure it gets extremely frustrating having this wonderful tool to engage with people, yet so many companies just use it as another direct sales/push marketing ploy. Thanks for the tips!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reply and input Jill - really good to know that you got more responses.

I agree with you on Travmedia too. I&#039;ll often only put an alert out there as a last ditch resort - the amount of clearly irrelevent emails you get as a result is astonishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply and input Jill &#8211; really good to know that you got more responses.</p>
<p>I agree with you on Travmedia too. I&#8217;ll often only put an alert out there as a last ditch resort &#8211; the amount of clearly irrelevent emails you get as a result is astonishing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Starley-Grainger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Starley-Grainger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the writer of the twitter request for European hotels for under £150, I have to say well done to the PRs who responded, and that I totally agree with everything in this article. Also, I received several DM replies, as well as replies to my personal email address, which were great and very helpful.

My request was for a semi-pitch (the editor has requested I find some for him to consider), and TravMedia doesn&#039;t allow you to post for pitches, so Twitter is very useful for this. Also, the PRs on Twitter so far seem a bit more savvy than some of the ones on TravMedia, and they never off-board bombard me with inappropriate answers (i.e. &#039;I have no EU hotels for under £150, but there&#039;s this great spa we&#039;ve just opened in Oz...&#039;).

Good work, Grumpy Traveller. Now let&#039;s just hope all new Twitter PRs take heed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the writer of the twitter request for European hotels for under £150, I have to say well done to the PRs who responded, and that I totally agree with everything in this article. Also, I received several DM replies, as well as replies to my personal email address, which were great and very helpful.</p>
<p>My request was for a semi-pitch (the editor has requested I find some for him to consider), and TravMedia doesn&#8217;t allow you to post for pitches, so Twitter is very useful for this. Also, the PRs on Twitter so far seem a bit more savvy than some of the ones on TravMedia, and they never off-board bombard me with inappropriate answers (i.e. &#8216;I have no EU hotels for under £150, but there&#8217;s this great spa we&#8217;ve just opened in Oz&#8230;&#8217;).</p>
<p>Good work, Grumpy Traveller. Now let&#8217;s just hope all new Twitter PRs take heed.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Popham</title>
		<link>http://www.grumpytraveller.com/2009/08/19/how-to-use-twitter-effectively-travel-pr-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Popham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We manage separate accounts for various clients too,  but sometimes the news we include will be fairly similar, so there might be opportunities to distinguish the content further. Our consumer followers largely come from key words we use - I tweeted about Eric Clapton in Montserrat recently and got added by some Clapton fans. The same thing happens if you mention an activity, i.e. cycling/surfing. So while we weren&#039;t actively seeking consumer followers, now they&#039;re there in a significant number, we may as well publish news that will interest them too. 

Like I said, it’s all a learning curve. It’s interesting to take note of how people respond as we go along so we can adapt accordingly and make sure we&#039;re providing what our followers want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We manage separate accounts for various clients too,  but sometimes the news we include will be fairly similar, so there might be opportunities to distinguish the content further. Our consumer followers largely come from key words we use &#8211; I tweeted about Eric Clapton in Montserrat recently and got added by some Clapton fans. The same thing happens if you mention an activity, i.e. cycling/surfing. So while we weren&#8217;t actively seeking consumer followers, now they&#8217;re there in a significant number, we may as well publish news that will interest them too. </p>
<p>Like I said, it’s all a learning curve. It’s interesting to take note of how people respond as we go along so we can adapt accordingly and make sure we&#8217;re providing what our followers want.</p>
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		<title>By: James Ellis</title>
		<link>http://www.grumpytraveller.com/2009/08/19/how-to-use-twitter-effectively-travel-pr-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>James Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oi! Don&#039;t you go encouraging more accounts to follow. I spend enough time following the ones I do already!!

Seriously, I have to agree on the whole with David. Being constantly &#039;spammed&#039; ends up turning me off going down the rest of the list of tweets since I last logged on. The same goes for publications that just automatically Twitterfeed their stories on the site and don&#039;t include anything else.

I appreciate we all have a business view to get across - Lord knows I am conscious of representing Metro and that readers are also be following - but lack of interaction just cloggs the Twitterspace with a drone of noise, from both journos/publications and PRs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oi! Don&#8217;t you go encouraging more accounts to follow. I spend enough time following the ones I do already!!</p>
<p>Seriously, I have to agree on the whole with David. Being constantly &#8216;spammed&#8217; ends up turning me off going down the rest of the list of tweets since I last logged on. The same goes for publications that just automatically Twitterfeed their stories on the site and don&#8217;t include anything else.</p>
<p>I appreciate we all have a business view to get across &#8211; Lord knows I am conscious of representing Metro and that readers are also be following &#8211; but lack of interaction just cloggs the Twitterspace with a drone of noise, from both journos/publications and PRs.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments Kate. Interesting to hear about it from a PR perspective. I don&#039;t think anyone knows what best practice is at the moment, and as I say, my views may be entirely unrepresentative for all I know. All I&#039;m trying to do is be helpful/ constructive by sharing my thoughts on the matter - and if it sparks a debate, then brilliant.

I hadn&#039;t considered that you may have consumers following you as well as travel industry types. Perhaps it&#039;s best to use separate accounts? ie. one for Montserrat, one for Dominica etc that have a largely consumer focus, and one for Saltmarsh that is more travel industry focused?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments Kate. Interesting to hear about it from a PR perspective. I don&#8217;t think anyone knows what best practice is at the moment, and as I say, my views may be entirely unrepresentative for all I know. All I&#8217;m trying to do is be helpful/ constructive by sharing my thoughts on the matter &#8211; and if it sparks a debate, then brilliant.</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t considered that you may have consumers following you as well as travel industry types. Perhaps it&#8217;s best to use separate accounts? ie. one for Montserrat, one for Dominica etc that have a largely consumer focus, and one for Saltmarsh that is more travel industry focused?</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Popham</title>
		<link>http://www.grumpytraveller.com/2009/08/19/how-to-use-twitter-effectively-travel-pr-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Popham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the mention of @SaltmarshPR. Very interesting to hear from a journalist’s point of view what you like reading and what you don’t since I guess we’re all still testing the waters to some extent. I’m certainly happy to take leads from others on best practice. Like you, we&#039;ll stop following people who tweet random musings since those messages do squeeze out the really interesting/relevant things. 

In quick defence of the travel PRs though, if our Twitter stream is representative of the norm, we’re being followed by as many travel enthusiasts as writers, so while we take the point (and largely agree) that summarising press releases might be overegging the pudding for journalists, there will be times we’ll want to tweet about great deals or big news since we&#039;re aware those notifications are being seen by potential customers as well as the media. Now we&#039;ve got these methods of targeting consumers directly, our clients (and we ourselves) are keen to take advantage of that.

So I guess it’s a question of keeping the balance right, with occasional bits of news thrown in amongst more general debate, conversation and interaction. We definitely find direct replies work well and that Twitter is a great way of speaking to journalists for whom our emails are just a handful among hundreds.

Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the mention of @SaltmarshPR. Very interesting to hear from a journalist’s point of view what you like reading and what you don’t since I guess we’re all still testing the waters to some extent. I’m certainly happy to take leads from others on best practice. Like you, we&#8217;ll stop following people who tweet random musings since those messages do squeeze out the really interesting/relevant things. </p>
<p>In quick defence of the travel PRs though, if our Twitter stream is representative of the norm, we’re being followed by as many travel enthusiasts as writers, so while we take the point (and largely agree) that summarising press releases might be overegging the pudding for journalists, there will be times we’ll want to tweet about great deals or big news since we&#8217;re aware those notifications are being seen by potential customers as well as the media. Now we&#8217;ve got these methods of targeting consumers directly, our clients (and we ourselves) are keen to take advantage of that.</p>
<p>So I guess it’s a question of keeping the balance right, with occasional bits of news thrown in amongst more general debate, conversation and interaction. We definitely find direct replies work well and that Twitter is a great way of speaking to journalists for whom our emails are just a handful among hundreds.</p>
<p>Kate</p>
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