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	<description>Travelling beyond the gushing hyperbole</description>
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		<title>By: Lisa Corcoran</title>
		<link>http://www.grumpytraveller.com/2010/02/10/the-eternal-awkwardness-of-luxury-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-2098</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Corcoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so the turndown service can be a little inconvenient and my husband hates people carrying his bag but having just returned from La Residencia in Mallorca, I have to confess I loved every single minute of it. To be fair, the staff really were lovely (def real people!) and there was no hint of stuffiness. Perfect....

Looks like I&#039;m out of the support group then!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so the turndown service can be a little inconvenient and my husband hates people carrying his bag but having just returned from La Residencia in Mallorca, I have to confess I loved every single minute of it. To be fair, the staff really were lovely (def real people!) and there was no hint of stuffiness. Perfect&#8230;.</p>
<p>Looks like I&#8217;m out of the support group then!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Head</title>
		<link>http://www.grumpytraveller.com/2010/02/10/the-eternal-awkwardness-of-luxury-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-2088</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah... but come on. You would KILL to fly business class rather than economy wouldn&#039;t you? I would! And I love spa treatments and would pay for them too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230; but come on. You would KILL to fly business class rather than economy wouldn&#8217;t you? I would! And I love spa treatments and would pay for them too</p>
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		<title>By: Abi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm - how about tidying up my room while I&#039;m out so that I can&#039;t find anything any more? There is method in my mess!

I agree with you about the turndown service and strange pantomime over luggage - but I&#039;m more than happy to mix luxury and rock-bottom when I travel. Sometimes it&#039;s nice not to have to block the door with the wardrobe to stop someone breaking in at night...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm &#8211; how about tidying up my room while I&#8217;m out so that I can&#8217;t find anything any more? There is method in my mess!</p>
<p>I agree with you about the turndown service and strange pantomime over luggage &#8211; but I&#8217;m more than happy to mix luxury and rock-bottom when I travel. Sometimes it&#8217;s nice not to have to block the door with the wardrobe to stop someone breaking in at night&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with you David, and I love the Austrian guy&#039;s quote, very well put. When I travel, especially to a foreign country, I crave AUTHENTICITY above all else, and there&#039;s nothing faker than a luxury hotel (except of course a luxury resort!). 

Now I can appreciate a comfortable room after a long hot day out in the city or wherever, but all the endless fripperies are just absurd - and as you suggested, childish. Does one really need to be constantly reasured that one is important?

(Will disagree a little on spa treatments though, as I think they can be legitimately therapuetic beyond pampering)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with you David, and I love the Austrian guy&#8217;s quote, very well put. When I travel, especially to a foreign country, I crave AUTHENTICITY above all else, and there&#8217;s nothing faker than a luxury hotel (except of course a luxury resort!). </p>
<p>Now I can appreciate a comfortable room after a long hot day out in the city or wherever, but all the endless fripperies are just absurd &#8211; and as you suggested, childish. Does one really need to be constantly reasured that one is important?</p>
<p>(Will disagree a little on spa treatments though, as I think they can be legitimately therapuetic beyond pampering)</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Jarosz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Jarosz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I share your discomfort of luxury hotels David. Part of 5 star service should be allowing guests to carry their own bags if they want to. I travel light and want to unpack the minute I open my room, not 15 mins later when the bellboy shows up with his outstretched palm. Far more comfortable in a decent guesthouse.
Having read Hal&#039;s comment I realise I&#039;m a crap excuse for a travel blogger, having had to pay for all the hotels I&#039;ve ever stayed in. What am I doing wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share your discomfort of luxury hotels David. Part of 5 star service should be allowing guests to carry their own bags if they want to. I travel light and want to unpack the minute I open my room, not 15 mins later when the bellboy shows up with his outstretched palm. Far more comfortable in a decent guesthouse.<br />
Having read Hal&#8217;s comment I realise I&#8217;m a crap excuse for a travel blogger, having had to pay for all the hotels I&#8217;ve ever stayed in. What am I doing wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the general feeling....but I also wish I had enough money to enjoy luxury travel! Basically, it is what it is. Sometimes being able to relax and be treated very well is nice, other times it&#039;s not what one is looking for. The key is simply to acknowledge that there&#039;s a trade off. 

*I&#039;m curious how much he will really give away. And I&#039;d be curious for an update in a decade!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the general feeling&#8230;.but I also wish I had enough money to enjoy luxury travel! Basically, it is what it is. Sometimes being able to relax and be treated very well is nice, other times it&#8217;s not what one is looking for. The key is simply to acknowledge that there&#8217;s a trade off. </p>
<p>*I&#8217;m curious how much he will really give away. And I&#8217;d be curious for an update in a decade!</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolas De Corte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicolas De Corte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does one really have to give away all their money to become able to live on a closer budget?
Maybe putting everything into a long-term investment would be a more considered thought. But who am I to judge? Thumbs up for the formerly rich guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does one really have to give away all their money to become able to live on a closer budget?<br />
Maybe putting everything into a long-term investment would be a more considered thought. But who am I to judge? Thumbs up for the formerly rich guy!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point on the turndown service, Sarah. I like the way that they always tell the maid to go and do it when I&#039;ve just got out of the shower, and I have to dive for any available scrap of material to stop myself flashing at her as she saunters in...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point on the turndown service, Sarah. I like the way that they always tell the maid to go and do it when I&#8217;ve just got out of the shower, and I have to dive for any available scrap of material to stop myself flashing at her as she saunters in&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Grumpy - thought you looked a little uncomfortable with some of that five star treatment we had in Tenerife recently. As much as I love a bit of luxury (oh, ok then, a lot!) I have to agree with the bit about the bellboy - never know what to do when they arrive, feel uncomfortable, wonder if I really am expected to tip them for doing what I can usually do myself and how much is about right for what is generally a tiny aspect of my hotel experience.

Agree with Stuart though not every five star is the same, and for some luxury is distinguished by a friendly, relaxed ambiance. But there are some that are faceless and false.

Another &#039;luxury&#039; I&#039;m a little uncomfortable with (or confused by) - turndown service. What is it all about? I&#039;m quite sure I can pull back my own bedcovers before getting into bed. I posted on other strange goings-on at five star hotels here: http://bit.ly/azXhcT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Grumpy &#8211; thought you looked a little uncomfortable with some of that five star treatment we had in Tenerife recently. As much as I love a bit of luxury (oh, ok then, a lot!) I have to agree with the bit about the bellboy &#8211; never know what to do when they arrive, feel uncomfortable, wonder if I really am expected to tip them for doing what I can usually do myself and how much is about right for what is generally a tiny aspect of my hotel experience.</p>
<p>Agree with Stuart though not every five star is the same, and for some luxury is distinguished by a friendly, relaxed ambiance. But there are some that are faceless and false.</p>
<p>Another &#8216;luxury&#8217; I&#8217;m a little uncomfortable with (or confused by) &#8211; turndown service. What is it all about? I&#8217;m quite sure I can pull back my own bedcovers before getting into bed. I posted on other strange goings-on at five star hotels here: <a href="http://bit.ly/azXhcT" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/azXhcT</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hal Peat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal Peat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot to mention one of the latest horrors of the five-star universe, which is being greeted with the warning that &quot;We don&#039;t have a concierge here.  Instead you&#039;ve been assigned your own...personal assistant!&quot;  Big mistake with me, who is frequently even crankier than usual after eight hours of flying and airport nightmares.  

But seriously, sometimes I can distinguish between what you encounter in a place that was thrown up on a still pristine coastline over the past decade and a hotel that&#039;s been around since the early nineteenth century.  The former creates that uncomfortable feeling of being thrown into a kabuki acting-out of feigned luxury and status, the latter has some element of authenticity, ambience, even a provenance of its own.  And I tend to react somewhat differently in each setting.  I&#039;ll add that I can understand and respect your own general five-star antipathy.  It&#039;s the decent reaction.  Then again, you are a travel writer and not just a travel blogger, so your inclination is the right one in feeling appalled by five-star excess rather than, for instance, one blogger post I read elsewhere that asked triumphantly &quot;What SWAG did you score on your latest press trip?&quot; Such people never get massaged enough nor receive enough bottles of cheap champagne in their suite. Christ amighty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot to mention one of the latest horrors of the five-star universe, which is being greeted with the warning that &#8220;We don&#8217;t have a concierge here.  Instead you&#8217;ve been assigned your own&#8230;personal assistant!&#8221;  Big mistake with me, who is frequently even crankier than usual after eight hours of flying and airport nightmares.  </p>
<p>But seriously, sometimes I can distinguish between what you encounter in a place that was thrown up on a still pristine coastline over the past decade and a hotel that&#8217;s been around since the early nineteenth century.  The former creates that uncomfortable feeling of being thrown into a kabuki acting-out of feigned luxury and status, the latter has some element of authenticity, ambience, even a provenance of its own.  And I tend to react somewhat differently in each setting.  I&#8217;ll add that I can understand and respect your own general five-star antipathy.  It&#8217;s the decent reaction.  Then again, you are a travel writer and not just a travel blogger, so your inclination is the right one in feeling appalled by five-star excess rather than, for instance, one blogger post I read elsewhere that asked triumphantly &#8220;What SWAG did you score on your latest press trip?&#8221; Such people never get massaged enough nor receive enough bottles of cheap champagne in their suite. Christ amighty.</p>
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